Tale of Two Cities, A
Ken Smith sez: The first atomic bomb film. Footage of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, a Jesuit priest survivor describing the Hiroshima blast, and the classic "atomic footprints in the sands of time" bridge shadow art (courtesy of an anonymous Nagasaki citizen).
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Subject: Axis of Gods Will
Time and Time again "sufficient justification"is given to the yanks involvement and deployment into military conflicts far abroad. Claiming to be the protectors of peace,harmony and freedom.
Both World Wars has been none other than an economic and satanist decision of involvement.
Provocation in WW2 unknown to the U.S. population at the times encouraging support of their people.
This sadistic criminal element hiding behind mainstream media lies and deception has distorted the history books.
How ever abominable and cowardice a government it is, time shows all lies.
Now the brutality the Japanese people suffered from Harry "Ku Klux Klan" Truman (since 1922) dropping these devastating weapons on civilians is in my opinion the worst modern day atrocity known to mankind.
Subject: just wrong!
It can be said that the use of these weapons saved millions of civilian Japanese lives.
Subject: Powerful testimony
For a good example of war era, ignorant and jingoistic propaganda seen the JayKay review below
Subject: Japan Got What It Deserved
What happened to these two cities was 100% the fault of Hirohito and his cronies - crazy fanatics who intended to drag this war out ad infinitum - even if the whole population of Japan starved and all the available men had suicided themselves.
Frankly the US was sick and tired of Americans getting killed and mamed just to satisfy this screwball's insatiable appetite for war - especially since by this time it was clear they'd get nothing out of it. So you are darn right! We had a new toy and we used it expediently.
Stubborn fanatics never win and unfortunately their subjects wind up as collateral damage. Its not a perfect world. So, sometimes one has to treat it as such.
Good film that demonstrates the effect of these bombs and tells why they were dropped where they were dropped. Flyers warning of these bombs were dropped well in advance. But dying other than a natural death is an honorable thing on that side of the world...so "gettin out of Dodge" wasnt a real high priority.
Subject: Take at least a minute to consider the implications
"The film shows destruction after destruction, and the viewer is quick to recognize the narrator appears to be salivating in all this destruction and appears not willing to bother mentioning anything about the uh deaths that incurred?"
The bombings occurred on August 6th & 9th; the surrender wasn't signed until 24 days later on September 2nd. The Strategic Bombing Survey didn't commence until sometime in October. So how many rotting corpses do you suppose the Japanese allowed to just linger in situ for a period of roughly two months before photography took place for this film? Naturally the dead don't appear on screen.
But the dead aren't ignored. The shadows of blasted pedestrians are clearly pointed out. The site of the Hiroshima military garrison is shown destroyed, and its complement of 20,000 dead personnel are plainly mentioned.
Of course you'd have to be stupid not to know that at least tens of thousands of people were killed outright by the bombs. The bombs were dropped on CITIES.
Subject: Well looking at the history...
As was said on the film 21 days after the testing of the first atom bomb in a city. The atom bomb was put to use.
They really had no idea of what was really going to happen. Even after the test on Bikini Island they had no idea what they had got themselves into. Sure scientist said be careful this is going to do really bad things, we all know that that never does any good.
No one ever believes doom sayers...
Subject: I find it amazing!!!
Take this wonderful film footage for example, the results of our use of nuclear weapons against another nation. A nation, I might add, that was already beaten and isolated from being a further threat. A nation, I might also add, that had attempted to sue for peace not once but several times in 1945. Truman wouldn't have it, he had a shiny new toy and he meant to use it!!!
The fact that this film is a much edited for public consumption edition is no surprise. That is true of any 'fact' you think you know about the end of the Pacific war (Japan continued desire to fight, the need for nuclear strikes, the results of those strikes, etc.)
Historical research is not difficult, especially with the internet around to help you. So, please stop drinking the kool-aid, remove those blinders and do some.
Subject: War is Hell
Subject: We are so sure that USA is invincible!
Subject: The good, the bad and the ugly...
After all the only good guys in a war are those who were attacked and got killed.
Ugly but true. :-(
Subject: This Is State Craft
America has made a conscious effort from the late 19th century to take a leading, if not lead role among the world's nations. At this time, the field was England, France, Germany, Russia, China and Japan. In the second rank was Brazil, Argentina and Mexico. In the ensuing 120 or so years, the only one left of the original lead pack is China. The surprise is the rise of a loose Islamic Shia/Sufi fundementalis that usually only bedeviled France, Italy, Spain, England, Germany as expressed by the Holy Roman Catholic Church.
The United States is committed by long policy and tradition growing out of its European ancestors to climb the mountain of hegemony. To do so requires the development of weapons such as pistols, gunpowder, rifled arms and cannon. Nuclear weapons development is just the latest cannon. This trend will continue with charged particle weapons and directed energy weapons which will be the new weapons of mass destruction.
It is the only way, the United States and the United States of Europe can successfully counter China, then India and a growing Pan-Islamic Federation. The U.S. led hegemony will attempt to keep any two of these three forces from joining while it develops the CPW and DEW weapons it needs to wage offensive war (the Bush Doctrine of Pre-emption) or defensive war (traditional U.S. Democratic-Republican foreign policy.)
Get used to it.
Subject: Review the movie, not people's reactions or sentiments
No one is ever truly a 'Good Guy' in a war.
As a longtime user of archive.org, this is not the place to ridicule other reviewers comments about the films. This is a powerful service to let people see films such as this and other public domain films and understand media.
Subject: Hiroshima and Nagasaki
It's stunning that anyone could think, even for a moment, that the US were "bad guys" in WWII.
A stunning, breathtaking, world-class, jaw-dropping, ignorant and stupid mind "thinks" something like that.
I suppose the Japanese were "good guys" for Nanking, Bataan, chemical and biological experiments (Pingfan), forced labor (aka "slavery"), mass rape, Mukden, Palawan, etc., etc., etc.
Yeah, the US were the "bad guys."
Subject: Frightening and Sad
Subject: (Not the dickens version)
Subject: A chilling, jingoistic document.
Although this film is "objective" on its face, there is a very clear undercurrent of "don't mess with us or we'll do this to you" and a definite Jingoistic, chest-thuming, OOO-RAH! flavor to the narration. It could have been much worse, of course, but one still believes in hindsight that any of this sort of crowing is inappropriate, even for domestic audiences. I note other reviewers' remarks about the blasts being exploded at higher altitudes to dissipate the radiation and other self-justifying comments in the narration, such as the remark about "expos[ing] the shadow war factories" in residential areas of Nagasaki. This sounds to me rather like "we found the weapons of mass destruction -- see, we HAD to do this." Well, okay, if you say so.
There is ongoing debate about the veracity of the Government's claim that the bombings ended the war quickly, thereby saving American and Japanese lives that would have been lost if the war continued. Perhaps this film adds an additional nuance of motivation for the bombings that was not publicly stated.
This is a scary movie.
Subject: No death?
Subject: A Tale of spin control